Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2:15
All that you see below (in italics) are studies by man and his so-called theology on how right he is as he teaches the Bible in his own way and not with the Holy Spirit guiding him. Many scam artists are behind the pulpits who are NOT rightly dividing the word of God in it's proper context. These are heretics, not I. If l was, God would never have called me to be a preacher. I will make sure all my doctrine is based on GOD HIMSELF and what HE tells ME when l read and study HIS Word, not what ignorant man teaches. Below is what people, majority of Baptists and practically everyone, are taught to believe.
The problem is, too many young preachers blow out of the water those who are old enough to be their Dads and think we are too old to really understand, know, and have a wisdom that these young preachers claim they know just because they are a behind a pulpit. An older person has more wisdom than a young man, and that is NOT pride either. It is just fact. Many young people and young preachers get too high and mighty just because they are more suited to be behind a pulpit than someone older. Too often, young preachers ignore what an elder can tell them with the wisdom they have, and ignore what they say because God put this young preacher there in place and not the older man. Young man, don't scoff at the older person! He needs to be respected.
I have been there and-have seen it. It is a wicked sin when a young preacher ignores what someone older may tell him what the Lord has told him. A shame. God hates that when a young man shows contempt for an older person who has more wisdom and understanding that the young one has. Pride does not play a part. It is the way it is. The older you get, the wiser you get - some of us anyway.
A fact of life, and wisdom is not sin. But, if you abuse it, it is. I am not saying the older ones are always wiser. Many are not, but with older age, they know things the younger generation can never know or even have a true understanding of. It is just fact and most deny that because nowadays young people just know everything and older folks know nothing. It is a shame, too, no one regards elderly anymore. Even young children, ages 9 to 12, claim they know things a grand dad doesn't know. Foolishness as the rod will get that attitude out of them very quick. They do not know. They are young and have not the maturity level of a grown adult (though l think otherwise at times, haha).
The preacher is NOT always right. If one seems to come across he is, then he is full of himself; proud (GOD hates Pride). Some men of God, l believe, are right in all their doctrines. It is possible and is not to say these, very FEW select men are full of themselves or prideful, too. I for one want to be a good preacher. l know and trust in the Lord to teach me thru His word and thru other Godly men. It is easy to find who is right too, and very simple to discern such things. That involves prayer --- much prayer.
I believe a great reason why the LORD is not calling young men to be preachers, or least there are few left, because God cannot trust their teachers to teach them Proper Bible doctrine, but lies. GOD knows He cannot trust even the young man to be a preacher, otherwise why is not GOD calling many to be preachers anymore? Too many men of God lie and are in confusion over many things. It is the same as saying there are such things as a carnal Christian. This is a lie, or being born a sinner is a lie. Romans 3:10-18 talks of a Christian, which it DOES NOT. It specifically speaks only of the ungodly and non-Christians, not of the Christian. Those who teach such things today are very mixed up and confused. We who are true Christians are Saints in the eyes of God. He looks on us as sinless Saints already. He looks on us as righteous. Anyone who teaches these passages that we are wicked and evil and they refer to us Christians, he is probably lost or just taught a doctrine of devils. NO way does these passages teach the Christian is such a thing, but this is another sermon.
Though the referred Romans verses above seem to say much, they also defames the Lord as He is not the author of confusion. God never created a race of degenerate sinners nor was anyone ever created with a sin nature. 'Sin nature', 'Adamic nature', 'born in sin': these phrases are NOT found in the King James Bible - God's Holy Word. They can be read in the modern perversions. Catholics believe this false doctrine of devils. This religion is heathen cult as was Augustine who started it. Yet, Baptists believe this reprobate, too! Such teaching is foolish, down right stupid, and dangerous. So l say, most religions are very cultist in their stinking teachings believing what Augustine taught. All the "christian" cults believe this. I am therefore saying these religions are teaching these evil things. People are being sucked in to believe such things which are of the devil. I now see at my older age why the LORD has called me be a preacher at 55, and not in my early 20's.
Anyone who teaches Born Sinners are foolish and liars. This (all that is written below in italics) is what they use to disrupt you and teach you contrary to what the Word of God teaches. It is not true and l have God on my side. It seems He is not on the side of so many who think He is on their side. 'Let God be true that every man a liar.' (We know what the Lord says about liars and they will go to hell, if not truly saved; or they will face shame at the judgment seat of Christ, if saved.) Therefore, l question much about some men of God who teaches such idiotic and stupid doctrines. l even now question the salvation that they say they have.
Below (italics) is what I am referring to above about some reasoning I recently read. It was his defense to what I had written in this blog last October 29, 2011 entitled Why The Majority Is So Wrong (Born Sinners or Not?). Someone had written it (italics) to justify the Born Sinner doctrine. It is an excerpt (extract/slice from his original full length writing) and therefore presented word for word as is.
Deut 1:39 Moreover your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil, they shall go in thither, and unto them will I give it, and they shall possess it.
your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children
Cp. to Numbers 14:3 & 31 God's people pronounced their own judgment!
had no knowledge between good and evil
‘The condition of accountability’ or ‘The principle of accountability’ or ‘The doctrine of Innocence’
There is no age ('The age of accountability'), but there is a condition, doctrine or principle of accountability!
Adam and Eve were in the garden in a state of innocence prior to falling.
They were given a command by God!
Gen 2
15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
16 ¶ And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
When Adam willfully sinned…
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
(Eve was deceived or tricked. 2Co 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.)
Then their eyes were opened…
Gen 3
6 ¶ And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
9 ¶ And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
11 ¶ And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
In order to understand this principle, we must understand two concepts concerning sin:
Sin nature inherited from Adam
Ps 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.
Ps 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
Pr 22:15 ¶ Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.
Ro 5
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Adam’s descendents were made in “his likeness” in “his image”
Ge 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
As opposed to Adam…he was made in the image and likeness of God!
Ge 5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
Another thing is these verses are literally picked apart and destroyed by the destroyer. It is highlighted to show such things. If you believe what you see here, you are blinded by the darkness and not enlightened by the LIGHT of the world the Lord Jesus Christ. Talk about taking these verses out of their context, and blatantly considering themselves to be wise in their own wise, but actually are fools. Remember the verse? Romans 1:22. Aha, you are taking that verse out of context you say, nope. Read verses before and after, and it may apply to you.
Psalm 51:5 is taken out of context, as is Psalm 58:3. Read 58 and see where it goes, surprising what the LORD will tell you IF you apply it properly. If your heart is right with the LORD, you are seeking pure truth from HIS Word, and put it in it's proper Biblical context, He will lead you to the right path. HE did me, will He you? Or will you be rebellious just because someone taught you what they were taught and you believe them and not seek the Lord's face on anything.
Willful transgression after the knowledge of the law!
1Jo 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
1Jo 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
Willful transgression is also called presumptuous sins:
Ps 19:13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
The Book of Jonah describes the same condition of innocence in Nineveh:
Jon 4:11 And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?
This would not apply to just young people but to people who are mentally challenged!
Some may never reach this condition!
These that had no knowledge between good and evil would not suffer the punishment of their parent’s willful transgression!
Le 5
1 And if a soul sin, and hear the voice of swearing, and is a witness, whether he hath seen or known of it; if he do not utter it, then he shall bear his iniquity.
17 And if a soul sin, and commit any of these things which are forbidden to be done by the commandments of the LORD; though he wist it not, yet is he guilty, and shall bear his iniquity.
De 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
2Ki 14:6 But the children of the murderers he slew not: according unto that which is written in the book of the law of Moses, wherein the LORD commanded, saying, The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, nor the children be put to death for the fathers; but every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
2Ch 25:4 But he slew not their children, but did as it is written in the law in the book of Moses, where the LORD commanded, saying, The fathers shall not die for the children, neither shall the children die for the fathers, but every man shall die for his own sin.
Jer 31:30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.
Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Children raised in a Christian home will probably reach this condition sooner that those who aren't!
God will not hold someone accountable for something that they cannot be accountable for!
The Bible speaks of imputation. Philemon 18 “put that on mine account”
IMPUTA''TION, n. The act of imputing or charging; attribution; generally in an ill sense; as the imputation of crimes of faults to the true authors of them. We are liable to the imputation or numerous sins and errors, to the imputation of pride, vanity and self-confidence; to the imputation of weakness and irresolution, or of rashness.
1. Sometimes in a good sense.
If I had a suit to Master Shallow, I would humor his men with the imputation of being near their master.
2. Charge or attribution of evil; censure; reproach.
Let us be careful to guard ourselves against these groundless imputations of our enemies, and to rise above them.
3. Hint; slight notice.
IMPU''TE, v.t. [L. imputo; in and puto, to think, to reckon; properly, to set, to put, to throw to or on.]
1. To charge; to attribute; to set to the account of; generally ill, sometimes good. We impute crimes,sins, trespasses, faults, blame, &c., to the guilty persons. We impute wrong actions to bad motives, or to ignorance, or to folly and rashness. We impute misfortunes and miscarriages to imprudence.
And therefore it was imputed to him for
righteousness. Rom.4.
2. To attribute; to ascribe.
I have read a book imputed to lord Bathurst.
3. To reckon to one what does not belong to him.
It has been held that Adam''s sin is imputed to all his
posterity.
Thy merit
Imputed shall absolve them who renounce
Their own both righteous and unrighteous deeds.
Another word that is used that has a similar meaning as imputation is “reckoned”.
Ro 4
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
9 Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
10 How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision.
Another word that is used that has a similar meaning as imputation is “counted” or “accounted”.
Ro 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Ga 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
The doctrine of Imputation is applied 3 ways in the Bible:
1) Adam – the imputation of the sinful nature of man
Ro 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Everyone dies a physical death for what Adam did!
No one else’s sin is imputed to our record! We are not sentenced to hell fire for what someone else has done!
2) Jesus Christ – the imputation of sin upon Him
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
3) The Saint of God – the imputation of Christ’s righteousness upon the child of God
This is an act of man’s will to accept or reject…
Ø The light that God has given man
Ø The truth of the word
Ø The truth of the gospel
Ro 4
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
We have no righteousness of our own!
When we trusted in Christ, God imputed His righteousness upon us!
2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Let’s look at sin and a child that hasn’t reached the condition of accountability…
Rom 5
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Every baby that is born into this world is born with a sentence of physical death because of Adam's transgression.
We all have a physical death sentence!
James 1
13 ¶ Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
There is no sin where there is no law:
Rom. 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Rom. 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
But their soul is not sentenced to hell for someone else's sin or transgression!
They are a sinner, but that sin has not been charged to their account!
There is a day when the light of innocence goes out in your child:
Ø Depending on your home
Ø Depending of their upbringing
Ø Depending on what they have been taught
Ø Depending on whether they have been disciplined
Pr 23:14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.
Parents who discipline their children will help them understand sin and the punishment for it!
This is like the law which is a schoolmaster which brought us to Christ
Gal 3
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
….that could be from 4-14, 40 or some never get there! ie. Mentally challenged people!
Even little children know what is right and wrong, as taught by their parents, but they don’t understand “good and evil” as taught by God.
Sin is imputed when a child understands the difference between good and evil and they willfully transgress the Law of God!
Ro 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
People don’t go to hell for what Adam did, they go to hell for their own sin!
Rom 7
7 ¶ What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
It is at this point, that sin is imputed to their account, it is charged to their account.
It is after this, a child is ready to be saved!
It is only after this, that if a child died in this condition, that they would spend an eternity in Hell.
In order for someone to die and go to hell, they must reject…
Ø The light that God has given them Jn 1:9
Ø The truth of the word of God 2Thess 2:12
Ø The gospel 2Thess 1:8,9
All have seen the witness of the stars:
Ps 19
1 ¶ To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
All have seen the witness of God’s creation and are without excuse:
Rom 1
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 ¶ Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
God has mercy on the righteous!
Ge 18:23 And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
God is just and righteous!
Ge 18:25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
There are no innocent people in Hell!
God is a just God, He does righteously!
Again, all is picked apart and highlighted because this is what those who used to show themselves right and correct in all their doctrine. I refuse to argue with people now as they will say when you don't answer, 'Ah, l have justified myself and you cannot answer, therefore l am right and you wrong, yeahhhhh'. Talk about stinking pride. They can't even study themselves to find these things out so that the LORD will tell them. God would have told them.
Brothers/Preachers, honestly, IF you have put aside what you were brought up to believe in, what YOU THINK the Bible says (by just allowing God to work in you), and what you believe what your teachers have told you (putting aside your beliefs and your prejudices, baring yourself of humanly knowledge before Him, reading and studying the BIBLE with an open, pure heart and clean hands, humbling yourself and surrendering everything to Him for wisdom in this - praying for God's revelation), GOD will really tell and show you. He did me, why can't HE you? Because of your spiritual weakness and to much pride? You refuse to study this as you just want to argue with what you were brainwashed to believe and what you were told by your teachers? The truth will make you free, or will it you?
Fools more like it and telling lies. God is just and righteous. He never has or did create an evil human or a sinner. Sin comes only at accountable age. Those who say and teach born sinners are liars (not true), thieves (stole the knowledge of truth), and idolaters (believing the wrong with conviction). All these shall have their part in the lake of fire which is called hell. So get right with the Lord, get truly saved and repent of your sin before it is too late.
l have been wanting to write this for a long time now. Christmas is here, so l do it before it comes***. We are born innocent whether anyone likes it or not. We are born without sin, created sinless and innocent, regardless what the cults teach. Sad that this includes the Baptists, too. It is a shame so many very dependable churches believe what the cults believe. For this reason, I hope this will lead most of you to open up your hearts and believe what l believe. GOD will never truly bless a church if one doctrine is misplaced and not taught properly (many of the believed-to-be-dependable and faithful Baptists churches belong to this category). I never would if I were God.
(c) Mike Carey; December, 2011
*** This was published after Christmas
